Logos
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Post by Logos on May 24, 2013 2:26:45 GMT -5
Interesting. It occurs to me though, that according to the origin myth, Kaos was opposed to "creation" as such, so it seems less likely to me that he'd create his own alternate realm. Maybe the "Shadows" could be more like "anti-persons" or "hole current" (in electronics, "hole current" refers to positive ionic charges in the "holes" left by moving electrons as they pass) or, well, shadows--an "absence" (of light, in the case of literal shadows) caused by the presence of a person. Something like a "person-shaped hole" of maximized metaphysical entropy in Kaos-space corresponding to each created person. So, maybe the Shadows could suck a person into their corresponding Void, seemingly erasing them from the world. Perhaps in the Itova-verse, "creation" involves an act of metaphysical separation of "light" from "darkness," so to speak, so that for each person and created thing there is an antitype in Kaos-space, like a mold from which a cast statue is removed. In order to make things real/manifest, Kronos had to divide the two, changing an undifferentiated metaphysical Oneness into a Duality with differentiated created things in "the created world" and their antitypes in the Kaos-space. This would also explain the symmetry between Gods and Daemons. In this scenario, perhaps Kaos wants to re-merge created things and their antitypes, thus un-creating the Cosmos. Also, I'm wondering if in this scenario the antitypes/Shadows of people would be thinking beings in their own right, or more like loci of anti-sapience, person-shaped Voids of howling Lovecraftian madness? So your Shadow would not be an "anti-you," it would be an "anti-personhood" of sorts that only "wants" (if that term even applies to such a Thing) to consume/erase you. Feel free to use this, or not, as you prefer.
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Post by Zabby on May 24, 2013 3:02:14 GMT -5
I swear Logos, you must study and/or have degrees in theoretical physics. Only someone with a background like that would think of the wonderful things you do.
Anyway, this all came up because I wanted to know how Amanda was viewing the daemons so I could formulate mine. For some reason, I had been thinking of them like the Endless from Neil Gaiman's Sandman, setting up their own domains and stuff, but you have a really good point there. I'm really not sure how we'd implement it when playing though.
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Post by atlantis on May 24, 2013 10:41:11 GMT -5
Interesting. It occurs to me though, that according to the origin myth, Kaos was opposed to "creation" as such, so it seems less likely to me that he'd create his own alternate realm. Maybe the "Shadows" could be more like "anti-persons" or "hole current" (in electronics, "hole current" refers to positive ionic charges in the "holes" left by moving electrons as they pass) or, well, shadows--an "absence" (of light, in the case of literal shadows) caused by the presence of a person. Something like a "person-shaped hole" of maximized metaphysical entropy in Kaos-space corresponding to each created person. So, maybe the Shadows could suck a person into their corresponding Void, seemingly erasing them from the world. Perhaps in the Itova-verse, "creation" involves an act of metaphysical separation of "light" from "darkness," so to speak, so that for each person and created thing there is an antitype in Kaos-space, like a mold from which a cast statue is removed. In order to make things real/manifest, Kronos had to divide the two, changing an undifferentiated metaphysical Oneness into a Duality with differentiated created things in "the created world" and their antitypes in the Kaos-space. This would also explain the symmetry between Gods and Daemons. In this scenario, perhaps Kaos wants to re-merge created things and their antitypes, thus un-creating the Cosmos. Also, I'm wondering if in this scenario the antitypes/Shadows of people would be thinking beings in their own right, or more like loci of anti-sapience, person-shaped Voids of howling Lovecraftian madness? So your Shadow would not be an "anti-you," it would be an "anti-personhood" of sorts that only "wants" (if that term even applies to such a Thing) to consume/erase you. Feel free to use this, or not, as you prefer. yes. that's just... awesome. as far as implementing it, perhaps we should think of their world as being like in those dreams where you're running through a complete void-- there's apparently a ground for you to run upon even though it looks just like the rest of the nothingness and all that seems to exist besides whatever entities are there (i.e.: chairs, food, etc.) only has a half-existence out of necessity. By which I mean, if Kaos should like to sit on a throne, the throne would only exist so long as that desire existed and vanish the moment it is no longer desired. Throwing that out there.
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Post by Bhunivelze on May 24, 2013 18:02:02 GMT -5
This whole "Shadow-y nothingness" reminds me of Kingdom Hearts so much it makes me want to cry from the nostalgic memories. (This is how I picture the shadows, even if it's incorrect)
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Post by purplemunster94 on May 24, 2013 19:03:30 GMT -5
I'm working on my post right now....it should be up soon...ish...
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Post by Marli on May 25, 2013 10:45:45 GMT -5
Sorry guys, I'm still reading this but am without internet for a few days so I won't have my posts up for a bit. :-P
Basically my idea for my God 'Sor' (working title, may change) is that he is a sort of outcast god, said to be birthed from a pool of Khaos and Kyros sweat and blood that formed during their battle (or something like that idk). His subjects are intelligent but not exactly human, however, Sor has found a human among his subjects and is trying to force him into the group. An unpopular decision. He is the god of instinct, passion, and basically the 'animal' side of human nature I guess? Not good exactly but not inherantly bad as the shadows or whatever.
back soon!
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Post by Zabby on May 26, 2013 21:15:12 GMT -5
I PMed Munster! Get back to me!
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Post by purplemunster94 on May 27, 2013 2:08:04 GMT -5
I pmed you back Zabby!
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Post by Bhunivelze on May 28, 2013 20:44:49 GMT -5
I really did intend to post today, but then life happened and now I have 9 chapters of reading. If I don't make it, ask TJ to take over my characters.
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Post by Bhunivelze on May 29, 2013 20:08:51 GMT -5
Uh... hm..... I.. uhhh.....did something. I started writing a bit for Lotanni and realized that the way I'm portraying him doesn't really match his appearance. Sooooo here is the new and improved Lotanni.
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Post by Zabby on May 29, 2013 20:18:45 GMT -5
Wait is that picture for Lontanni or Tamat? I'm confused.
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Post by Bhunivelze on May 29, 2013 20:21:43 GMT -5
EHHHH! I can't type today! I swear it's been happening all day! That picture is the new LOTANNI. TAMAT is still the shirtless, red-head, with the spear.
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Post by atlantis on May 29, 2013 20:24:52 GMT -5
shweet, I'll fix it on the site. Also, to Munster: I'm working on a post for Tyr, but I keep getting distracted....
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Post by purplemunster94 on May 29, 2013 20:31:39 GMT -5
It's all good, I know the feeling. Everything is distracting since summer started...
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Post by Bhunivelze on May 30, 2013 9:04:33 GMT -5
Er Mah Gerd. You guize! 3 posts since last night?!
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